Message from Carly Fiorina
Hello Everyone!!!! We are FINALLY back up. It's great to be able to communicate with everyone again. I know that all of us have been feeling a bit "homeless" since the primary season has ended. We hope that you will all make womenforfairpolitics.com a regular stop. We appreciate all of your input and all of your expressions of concern. This website was like having a baby------it was born on its own timetable which was not necessarily OUR timetable. But we are here and we intend to move forward. Nothing has changed--------we exist to make sure that NO woman running for president will EVER have to experience what Hillary Clinton had to experience.
We are very excited to present the exclusive launch of the following video by Carly Fiorina. We are very interested in what you think of her comments. Please view it and let us know!!
posted by Real Democrats USA @ 2:36 PM
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75 Comments:
Thank you to the McCain campaign stepping up and reaching out to us. Not what I could say about BO.
I respect Carly Fiorina. It is a good move on her part in promoting John McCain. However, my heart and my vote remains loyal to "Our Girl" Sen. Hillary Clinton. I do believe Sen. Clinton should be the 44th President of the U.S. of America;not because she is a women, but because she is BEST QUALIFIED, EXPERIENCED, and a FIGHTER. She will MAKE America a better place for all.
Here's the thing: I loathe Barack Obama. He's inauthentic, arrogant, inexperienced, shows bad judgment via-a-vis his associates. I think his chickens will come home to roost just in time for the rightful nominee to head the ticket.
That said, should the chickens need a little more time, I won't vote for Obama or write in Hillary's name, which would be a vote awared to Obama.
However, we, HRC supporters from all walks of life and every and even no political affiliation, constitute the DECISIVE VOTING BLOCK IN THIS ELECTION.
We should NOT GIVE AWAY OUR PRECIOUS, VALUABLE VOTES SO EASILY.
Has anyone seen the survey that Republicans are taking at their voter registration tables? I took the time to fill one out yesterday, even though I reregistered (after 35 yrs as a Dem)as a nonpartisan on June 3rd.
The ECONOMY was not even listed as an issue on concern in question 1.
The other questions were narrow and troubling. I was left depressed and frustrated, thinking, there's no one to vote for. (Believe me, get your hands on this survey, and you'll see what I mean...)
I believe we absolutely MUST use our WINNING NUMBERS to dialogue and negotiate. The older I get, the more I realize that the answers are neither Left nor Right but somewhere in the middle.
We centrists must make it known that we will NOT BE RAPED BOTH ON THE WAY IN AND THE WAY OUT.
Neither the Dems nor the Republicans are our friends. We are each other's only true allies.
DON'T GIVE AWAY THE VOTES FOR NOTHING! MAKE THEM WORK FOR IT.
I think Ms. Fiorina would appreciate what I've said. (She may not like it, but she knows what I've said is true. She didn't make it to the top of HP by being stupid.)
NOBAMA! EVER!
WORK FOR MY VOTE!
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Carly,
Thank you for talking in a straight forward, sincere way to those of us in the wilderness. I have to say it is starkly different than the way our own party has been threatening us with Roe v. Wade.
Just watched the Carly Fiorina tape - very impressive. She'd make a great VP for McCain - she could bring the financial savvy he lacks.
Say what you will about the Republicans they are at least showing respect to Hillary's voters and not taking us for granted.
Makes my vote for McCain should Hillary not get the nomination (never know what will happen) that much easier.
I am hoping that 18 million Hillary base will change their registeration from Democratic to Independent, and by doing so this will send such a strong message to the DNC for their action against Hillary, that they will know women have a voice, and will not be denied. By their action, I truly pray that at the convention, they will do the right thing and give Hillary the nomination, and if not, they WILL lose the election in Nov. by her base voting against Obama, and please go to the polls, staying home and not voting will not make a difference. Women have to fight to be respected!!
The Republican party has never showed real respect towards women. Unless you consider the blocking of the ERA (which has still never passed enough states to add to our constitution) or the fact that they want to take away our reproductive freedom a compliment.
I find this totally disrespectful to Hillary and to all women. They think that we are weak and reactionary females and seek to take advantage of us in our time of weeping. Well, this gal ain't weeping yet!
Hillary would not want any of us to vote for McCain, ever.
What she does want is a powerful showing from now until and through the national convention.
This ex-CEO is now and has always been a republican. They have been lying to us in Orwellian terms since Reagan.......why would you believe any of them now?
And, I have been with Hillary since last Novemeber. You can check out my own blog to verify that I am not an Obamaniac in disguise.
I am so pissed at the DNC I wouldn't leave the party now for anything. Why? Because getting more active and having a louder voice is just what they don't want from us. It's our party too and we have the numbers to change all the leadership. That's what we should be working on. That's how you show people they have done a crappy job--by firing them!
If you are a delegate, hang in there! Going public supporting McSame could cost you your vote at the convention. If you are a party officer, speak up and figure out how to further yourself in your county, CD unit, or state party. If you are not dues paying members of the party, join now and speak up.
Excellent, balanced presentation by Carly Fiorina. Far from the whole illuminated/hysterical tone of many Obama supporters. Fascinating to watch the divide in this election between reasonable, fair-minded, honest people, trying to do what's right and clever demagogues who will do and say anything to get a vote (read my lips) including reaching out to the religious right etc..Mind you, let's not underestimate the cleverness of that move: that is where McCain is weak, and where Obama could entice his right wing. McCain is more trapped than Obama whose cultish following will see no wrong in whatever he does. A truly terrifying new breed for the US, and as usual, the intellectuals and the young will be the first to fall for it, as they did for fascism, for Stalinism, for China's cultural "revolution", etc...before over and over being proven wrong and waking up too late. Anyway, Carly Fiorina makes a lot of sense: the question is can sense win this election? We need to think of how to fight hype and bad faith effectively. I don't know yet whether I'd vote McCain but certainly at a minimum, I'd write in Hillary's name. Here again we need to unite and be organized in whatever we do. Logistics (caucuses, rides to register etc.) have proven one of Obama's strengths. We need to achieve that ourselves. Thank you for sharing this video.
thank you thank you,I thought I was all alone in feeling appalled at the so obvious bias displayed by the newsmen on cable television. some could not say Hillarys name without a sneer in their voices. I am with you and will view your site
often.
Hi Carly,
Thank you for taking the time to come speak in this forum. Unfortunately, I cannot bring myself to support your candidate for the following reasons:
1. His positions on women's rights
2. His position on the war
3. His positions on health care
4. His positions on the economy
While I wish Senator Clinton was our candidate I will be supporting the candidate with the closest policies to hers and that is Senator Obama.
Any person, male or female, who claims to have supported Clinton and now say they will vote for McCain needs to reevaluate why you're voting and ask "Should my vote be based purely on emotion, or on logic and facts?"
How anyone can go from supporting Clinton to McCain shows how much they really didn't support Clinton in the first place. How you can cheer and support Clinton's policies, and then all of a sudden when she doesn't win support McCain's policies does not many any sense. His stance on women rights, the war, healthcare.
How can any of you look at yourself in the mirror with a straight face?
I would hope that all of you will take a second look at what you're doing. Voting for a man who abandoned his first wife because she was crippled, left his 3 children, and so on and so forth just doesn't add up when you all supported Clinton.
I wish you and your family good health, and hopefully in the coming months you will set your emotions aside and vote with your head.
Clinton policies and Obama policies are almost identical when comparing Clinton and McCain. Vote on the policies, not your emotions.
Some talking points to help disenfranchised Hillary Clinton supporters make the jump to John McCain:
1. The first four years of the next Presidency will be cleaning up after George Bush. Better to have a Republican do it, then Hillary can come back in 2012.
2. The D's will still have full control of the Senate, so there will be limits to what Pres. McCain can do. There's NO WAY the Senate will let him nominate a Supreme Court Justice that will overturn Roe vs. Wade.
3. Conservatives hate McCain a lot more than Liberals do. There would be room to work with him.
4. Think aboot all the comments made from pro-Obama/anti-Hillary forces and how much fun it would be to make Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, and Daily Kos cry.
Oh, I've missed this site. Thank you, thank you for coming back. I hear the talking heads referring to us now on the T.V. All of a sudden they seem to be concerned about our vote. TOO LATE!! We're gone. I will not vote for ob. I can't support him because of his past and his speech now. He can't be in the White House. We must all vote for McCain, and not just sit out the election. If we stay home or vote for a minor candidate, that's as much as voting for ob. Let's stick together. And, yes, again, I've been a voting dem for over 40 years. I care about my country.
I am over fifty and so like many on this site have several personal experiences of the not so subtle sexism that is alive and well in this country. We have come a long way, yet we still have a long way to go. Hillary Clinton made a good run, she has heroically smashed many obstacles for future women.
I cannot believe that Clinton supporters would support John McCain and all of his policies. Is this for spite? Because the mainstream media mocked Hillary Clinton? Yes, they mocked her. So we should vote for a man that is just about opposite of Hillary Clinton in health care, the economy, the war?
This just doesn't make sense.
Were we supporters of Hillary Clinton's because we believe in her ideas and platform or just because she is a woman? Are we so bitter that she is not the candidate that we will now vote for a man who's views are so oppostite and, if elected, will make it that much more difficult for her to accomplish any of those things she feels so passionate about? A vote for John McCain by any Hillary Clinton supporter is an insult and a "slap in the face" to Senator Clinton. She deserves a president with whom she has more in common and one which will enable her to successfully continue her fight for what is right. A Republican president will not provide the environment for the kinds of change and accomplishments Senator Clinton wants to make. She needs our support now just as much as ever and that support certainly is not a vote for John McCain.
How does voting for McCain cure a media bias? You can believe there is a media bias, absolutely, but this is certainly not the answer. Be mad at the media, not at the party. There are other ways to solve this problem.
McCain does NOT stand up for women's rights, and McCain will not make your lives richer, happier, and more productive.
It is crucial that out next president does NOT appoint a conservative Supreme Court Justice -- we have had enough of those under the current administration. What is there not to understand about that?
McCain is reaching out to you for purely political reasons, and you are ignorantly accepting his olive branch. "Your girl" Hillary Clinton would NEVER want you to vote for John McCain: he represents EVERYTHING that she is not.
Should you continue along this path, both you and Hillary Clinton will look back in November, and in the years ahead, and shake your heads at your shameful, spiteful, poorly considered actions.
I can support neither Obama nor any Republican because of their poor attitude and record on women's rights. I don't think the two-party system is serving us well at all. But Ms. Fiorina is right about not wasting a precious vote. I will vote Green. I am more in tune with their platform than any one else's and I will be making a statement against a failed system.
Kasha
Thanks to Carly Fiorina for talking directly to us. I would also like to see a video from Senator McCain talking directly to women. Since Hillary Clinton suspended her campaign I have been reading everything about John McCain and his record. I think that there are some misconceptions and propaganda about his stand on issues. How can the Democratic Party possibly be believed ever again? So don't believe the Democratic party's propaganda now regarding John McCain.
Mark, I look at myself in the mirror and with a very straight face pledge to never vote for Obama and to vote for McCain. McCain is my second choice but he is now the right choice. If you can say, with a straight face, that Obama would be better for America's future than John McCain then you are blindly supporting a candidate. I have been a life long democrat but the party has become far too left wing for me. It goes beyond party "my friend".
I agree with those who say women should declare themselves Independents whose votes cannot be taken for granted by either party. For too long, the Democratic Party has been taking us for granted -- promising much, delivering little.
Since someone mentioned the ERA, let's take a look at that. The first Equal Rights Amendment was introduced in 1923 by two Republican congressmen. It failed, apparently, because organized labor (traditionally a bastion of men) opposed it. The ERA was re-introduced every year thereafter until 1970, but rarely made it out of committee because no one, of either party, pushed the measures.
The amendment that passed in 1972 and came within three states of ratification ultimately failed because of the fear by many Christian conservatives that it would guarantee the right to abortion and would place women in harm's way by allowing them to be drafted and, in turn, putting them in combat situations.
Well, no one is being drafted these days, women are already in combat, and abortion has been legal since Roe v. Wade.
So why haven't any of the measures re-introduced into Congress every year since 1982 gone anywhere? It really comes down to one issue: abortion. The measures, including the one introduced in 2007, which also has gone nowhere, insists on raising the right to an abortion to amendment level.
Is this cutting off our noses to spite our face? We've let this one highly divisive issue -- even among women -- block a measure that could achieve pay equity for all. We've lost the concept of incremental change, and lost sight of the fact that there's usually more ways than one to "skin a cat." (God, I hate that expression.)
Organizing your work place, for example, might actually be a more effective way to achieve both pay equity and universal health care. Unionism has shrunk dramatically in the past several decades, to the detriment of women and the lower and middle classes. Why, I'm not sure. I am half owner of an electrical contracting firm and can tell you this: The women who work in the electrical trades (there are a few)and are union members already have both pay equity ($33.12 an hour) and great benefits, including health, dental, vision, and retirement.
For too long, we've been sitting back and waiting for politicians to do the heavy lifting and insure our rights. And almost to a man, they've disappointed us. Perhaps it's time to start looking for another way -- time for all of us to become Norma Raes.
Yes, John McCain has a shameful voting record on abortion rights. But the politicians who've been blowing hot air up our skirts for years haven't made our goals a top priority, either.
I'm voting for McCain for one reason: Because he's more qualified to become commander-in-chief.
Make that two reasons. Defeating Obama in the fall, barring some scandal between now and August, is the strongest message we can send to the DNC that we are tired of this nonsense. It is also about the only chance that Hillary will ever have to gain the White House.
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I am angry about the subtle & blatant sexism in the media and among Obama supporters I know (note I said supporters, not Obama himself or his campaign).
I am even angrier about McCain calling his wife a "cunt" and making a very public "joke" that Chelsea Clinton is "ugly" because "Janet Reno is her father." (Chelsea was a teenager at the time)
However, what is most important to me is where candidates stand on issues that will affect me directly, as a woman and as an American.
This whole idea that any sane Clinton supporter would jump to McCain is just, well, nutty. Seriously.
Clinton: Pro-choice
Obama: Pro-choice
McCain: Anti-choice
Clinton: Has substantial (albeit imperfect) health care proposals
Obama: Has substantial (albeit imperfect) health care proposals
McCain: Leaves everyone but the wealthy uninsured
Clinton: Wants to bring the troops home and invest in America instead of Iraq
Obama: Wants to bring the troops home and invest in America instead of Iraq
McCain: Wants to continue to pour trillions of our tax dollars into endless war in Iraq
I would really like to see any argument for how McCain is more in line with our (Clinton supporters) values than is Obama. Please. I have not yet seen anything on this site that makes me willing to forget McCain's long, consistent record of voting in ways that hurts women, nor his outrageous and insulting verbal misogyny.
Thanks Mark, for reminding women once again that we are so emotional we cannot make rational or intelligent decisions without a male's influence and guidance(something you have in common with the DNC). We appreciate your instruction in this matter.
Carly Fiorina talks a good game, but I watched Lou Dobbs info on her last night and was less than impressed. She walked away from HP with a huge settlement while she took jobs away from hard-working Americans. That is something I cannot support.
McCain appears to be center-right while Hillary is center-left. I believe most of Americans fall somewhere in-between and that is how I would rationalize my vote for McCain over Obama.
I would prefer to have Sen. Clinton as my next President; if that is not possible, then I will not waste my vote by staying at home or a write-in that would most probably not count - - it would be an act of defiance but unproductive. It was not "an emotional decision" for me - - it was just plain research into the the ethics and morals of the candidates.
Bringing up McCain's first marriage is unfair. After enduring 5 years of unimaginable hell in Vietnam he most certainly was not the same man that left his wife and family to serve his country. We do not know the contributing factors in the McCain's divorce and it is certainly none of our affair.
I understand that a lot of women are mad because of how they perceive Hillary's treatment by the press. However, I am yet to meet anyone that voted against her because she is a woman. If you decide to vote for McCain because the democrats did not annoint Hillary, you are only doing more harm to your movement. If Obama lose because of the womem vote, do not expect African Americans to be pumped up to a woman anytime soon either. We are the base of the democratic party, allienating a candidate simply because it is not Hillary (inevitable woman) would come back to haunt you. And do not be expecting the Republicans to elect a female to represent their party in a century. You will still need the democratic party, if you decide to leave now, it will be your loss later.
Ok, so McCain respects Fiorina's counsel. I wonder if McCain ever calls her the C-word that he called his wife? And I wonder what she thinks about the joke McCain told at a republican fundraiser about Chelsea Clinton being "ugly" because "Janet Reno is her father"?
First off i Would like to say this is a great site. Secondly Obama was not my first or even second choice voted for Hillary, Dodd was my second. I have been a big Fan of Hillary for her tireless and constant fighting for many issues which i have so much in common with her.
But i could under NO way vote for McCain while he does what he thinks is best, i honestly think it would be a slap in the face to Hillary if i cast my vote for someone that is so far away from the issues which she champions Health Care, Womens reproductive freedom, Education, Environment the list goes on. In her speech she said we must continue to fight for those things that brought us together. The question i think everyone of her 18 million supporters should ask themselves is will it be easier to fight for those things With Obama as President or McCain and the answer i think everyone would come up with is Obama.
Carly thanks for reaching out. However I am ONLY VOTING for MCCain so that Hillary gets a chance 2012. We have learnt our lesson and know that the DNC only selects and not elect their Nominee, so the next round we Hillary supports will ensure that the superdelegates and DNC do not have a say. My Vote is for McCain as he is better than OBAMA and does not Flip Flop like OBama. See how BO flipfloped on IRAN now, our Madame president was right all along. Obama associates gives me the shakes, to me it shows that it is okay to him if people hurt americans and also he is fast to give up his reglious beliefs for political reasons now that we have a snapshot to them. For 20+ years he made the judgment to stay in that church. He practice one thing and does another.
I am not going to give away my vote. I do not agree with OBAMA so never will I vote for OBAMA. I may even vote GREEN or MCCAIN. MY GOAL here is to give Hillary a chance to run in 2012. If I took 8 years of BUSH I can take another 4 years. TO me OBAMA is worse than McCain, he does not have any record. He gives up his core beliefs of 20+ years when we (american) see a snap shot of it and he did this all for the sake of politics. He now thinks IRAN is dangerous when he spoke infront of the Jewish community but all along was willing to talk to them with no preconditions. Vote for Obama if you like but to me he is VERY FAR from Hillary's policies as he has NONE. He is a good talker that I give him and the reason to BE AFRAID of him, he has talked alot of people to believing whatever. Well, this black woman is not going to be one of them. My dad use to say show me your FRIENDS and I will TELL who YOU are. OBAMA friends SPEAKS VOLUME ABOUT HIM. So he is not going to get my VOTE. HE PALYED INTO SEXISM AND NOT ONCE DID HE STEP UP TO SPEAK AGAINST IT SO OBAMA THIS is ONE WOMAN OUT OF 18 MILLION WHO WILL NOT VOTE FOR YOU. I pray anyone but OBAMA/DNC wins the WH. IN 2012 I will working hard for HIllary as Madame President. Obama do not think you will get my vote if Hillary is VP, my vote will only go to the DNC with Hillary on TOP.
What a bunch of poor losers. You are willing to vote for 4 more years of Bush because Hillary won't be the nominee. Hillary is asking each and every one of us to support the nominee who happens to be Obama. If you are willing to go over to the other side I say to each and every one of you, please re-register as a republican because you are not true democrats. Go ahead and cut off your nose to spite your face.
To all you women out there you are willing to vote for McBush because Hillary is not the nominee. Well, I say to you -if he wins you will have another 4 years of Bush and there will be more Conservative judges put on the Supreme Court. This country is in the worst shape it has ever been and I've lived under 12 presidents and the worst years have all been under Republican presidents. We're in a war that is without just cause. We've lost over 4000 of our young men and women for oil. Thousands of innocent Iraqi's are dead because of oil. We were right in going into Afghanistan because of Bin Ladin. By the way, no-one seems to be looking for him. I say to all of you who plan on voting for McCain, do the rest of us a favor and re-register republican because you cannot be a true democrat. I stand with Hillary and will be voting for Obama.
To all you women who plan on voting for McCain, I say to you go ahead and cut off your nose to spite your face. I have lived under 12 presidents and the worst years have been under Republican presidents. These last years have been full of nothing but lies from this administration. A vote for McCain is a vote for anoother 4 years of Bush. We will be in Iraq for god only knows how long. They lied to us to get us into Iraq and they keep lying about getting us out. What ever happened to getting Bin Ladin? Bush said in an interview that he doesn't even think of him. Over 4000 American lives lost, not to mention thousand of innocent Iraqi's dead. For what--OIL. Well I stand with Hillary and will be casting my vote for Obama. Those of you who clain to be democrats but will still vote for McCain, do the rest of us a favor and re-register republican. No true democrat would vote for the republican candidate, especially after 8 years of the most corrupt administration that ever existed.
Glad to see Mark is keeping chauvinism alive and well. Mark, you sorely underestimate the intelligence of the women on this site. The basis for their vote is steeped in intelligent research and thought. I felt Hillary was the best democrat for Prez. I am confident at this point in time of one thing: I will not vote for BHO. Too much is unknown about young Barack, aka Barry. He's obviously easily swayed, manipulated and too often wants to be all things to all people be it Louis F., Pastor W., Fr. P., Weatherman Billy A. or the democrats. He is not a strong candidate and will be an even less effective president. We need someone who has passion, love and patriotism to the USA. BHO's personal agenda is crowded with his radical cronies and less populated with Americans who love their country. The issues notwithstanding, BHO will sell the USA down the road and that is why he doesn't qualify nor his resume reflect presidential material. He is no John Fitzgerald Kennedy.
Probably the most depressing thing on the internet right now.
If you're ready for the end of Roe V. Wade, war with Iran, and at the very least another three trillion in debt designed to prevent effective aid for the poor, sick, elderly, and their dependents into the 2020's, you are certainly on the right track.
I used to say that only affluent, healthy white males possessed the lack of life experience necessary to believe that the two main parties were similar. I may have to reword that one.
Please do your research when it comes to this woman. She is reviled in by her former employees. She was a willing participant in shipping their jobs over to India and then blamed the people she laid off saying they weren't "skilled workers. She was later fired for being a lousy CEO. But why should she care, she got a cushy $21 Million payout.
Yep Ms. Fiorina....SCREW 'EM, the working class don't need jobs. And by the way, thank for sending MY job overseas.
to all you so called democrats who will be voting for McCain because Hillary is not the nominee. After 8 years of the most corrupt administration, you're going to try and give us 4 more of the same for spite. Well let me tell you, I've lived under 12 presidnets and the best years were under Democratic administrations. The worst have been un the Republicans. Hillary is asking us all to support the nominee and that is Obama. I intend to do so. The rest of you that insist on going over to the other side, well please do us a favor and re-register as a republican (and I'm not so sure that most of you are) because a true democrat would never switch sides because your candidate didn't get the nomination. Hillary, I will proudly stand with you and vote for the one you support--Barack Obama.
To: Carly Fiorina and other liars who would ruin America
You must be kidding! The real benefit of this election is that finally political BS is being shown in the light of day.
I do not and will not buy another Hewlett Packard product because of Carly Fiorina's pronouncement that "Americans have no god given right to employment" as she shipped off HP to China.
While I am a Democrat, had they sold out Americans to the Chinese and the Middle East as this Republican administration has, I would be voting Republican.
It is decidedly unAmerican to vote for a political party or personality to the detriment of America. This is what the Republicans and their sycophants, like Ms Fiorina, have done. No matter what gender, socio-economic or ethnic affinity I would not waste a vote on those who would ruin America for a buck - of whatever stripe. It is a despicable, reprehensible ruse that Carly seeks to represents herself and McCain as a cure for the damage Bush/Cheney have caused.
May the Republican's for their attention to things other than America and American's suffer the greatest loss in American political history.
cc: MSNBC, FOX,CNN,CBS, NBC
p.s. unlike many who follow their political party to the detriment of America. If the Democrats are as incompetent and criminal as the current administration I will then vote Republican. The time has come for incompetent, lying, thieves hopefully has come to an end.
Reading all the comments is like going through another primary why is it so hard to see that they are all just polititians with an agenda im not sure who is right or wrong i just know that at this point in my life i can only make the best decision i can with the facts that are here now and today my vote is for McCain. I believe that it will take some amt of years to fix all the stuff that is so screwed up anyways,so if my vote will help someone other than ob win than at least i know he wont be running in 2012 and thats my HOPE to see HILLARY become president the only real politician i think is out there.Thanks Jenny
Clearly there is an element of ignorance and stupidity if you believe there is no issue with the way Bush/Cheney have run the country but seek to criticize - well anything else.
Your judgment is clearly impaired. All voting, of age Americans should be capable and inclined to apply critical judgment to your candidate as well as the opposition.
Nazi's, Communist and Facists are they who mindlessly follow their "leaders" no matter what!
One thing more, while I respect McCains service to the country just as I respect similar service by most of my family members and thousands of other Americans - POW status does not make his judgement above question or alone automatically qualify him to be President.
Those of you who do not "like" Obama because he is an African American - just say so rather than concoct reasons or appear ignorant by repeating factually untrue statements.
It is just fine to find any candidate you deem, by intelligent judgement and assessment of fact, to be better than the opponent.
Those who knowingly fabricate a rationale and spout that as fact are both sickenly pathetic, ignorant and will end up with the leader they deserve - inadequate.
We now have obamaites invading our land here. Watch out people. We must be strong and stick to our guns. Now,let me be straight. We are not changing our vote to McCain because of emotion, or anger. We CANNOT vote for ob. That was our choice before. He is unqualified to fill that office. He is inexperienced. PERIOD! The southside of Chicago and a few short months as an inexperienced senator does not qualify him for the White House. I'm voting for the only person I see running qualified to be president. Hillary was definitely the MOST qualified. But, my choice is no longer there. Hence, I will be voting for Senator McCain.
Apparently some people here are getting defensive over what I said, and if you took some sort of offense to it rest assured those weren't my intentions.
What's worse? When I talk about emotions assuming that I mean that women are too emotional, or assuming them men have no emotion? You are simply assuming I meant emotional in a sexist way.
My father is a huge Clinton supporter, and he is as upset as all of you, and he is emotional about it. Nothing wrong with that, as it is natural to be upset when you put blood, sweat, and tears into something like many of you probably did for Clinton.
All I'm saying is that for women (or men) to go from supporting Clinton, to say you are going to vote for McCain instead of Obama is ridiculous and the only logical explanation for that would have to be emotion of some type clouding judgment. Spite, anger, sadness, and the list can go on.
If you truly did support Clinton, the worst thing you can do is turn around and vote for a Republican, especially one who's views on both domestic and foreign policy differ so much from those of Clinton, Obama, and the Democratic Party.
To what you are trying to prove is beyond me, and it shows nothing but a selfishness beyond anything I've ever seen.
I truly hope that those who are really Clinton supporters and call themselves Democrats (both men and women) , after some time has passed set aside their own feelings and look at the greater picture -- this country -- and say "I'm sad Clinton lost, she had a very hard and unfair disadvantage, I'm hurt and angry, but this isn't about me, it's about this country and what we are leaving our children. I cannot in good conscious vote for McCain, and I will be voting for Obama."
A few of you have said i Cannot vote for Obama because of the company he kept or keeps and that he is to easily swayed. But lets take a look at the Opponent which many say are straight forward and have morals and ethics. You mean the same McCain that has become very good Friends with Bush after the way they treated him in 2000, you mean the Same McCain that has voted 82% in line with the White House in the last 5 years. You mean the McCain that got very cozy to Hagee and Parsely to make himself more visible to the religious right. You mean the Same McCain that after he was a POW said he wishes no one would go through those things i did, but when he had a chance to stop Bush's Torture and mistreatment of POW voted to continue under the same path we have today. Do you mean the Same McCain that keeps company of G Gordon Liddy thats right Mr. Watergate. Or How about the company he kept during the Keating 5 McCain is far from being the straight talking Senator he claims to be.
isn't it interesting that obama supporters think we can be bullied and belittled into voting for him? it speaks volumes about their candidate.
anyway...
even if obama were of good character, which he most certainly isn't, the fact remains that he is simply NOT qualified to be president. period.
if hillary clinton isn't on the ballot in november, i'm definitely voting for john mccain.
To all 18 Million Hillary Clinton Supporters. These were Her own words "This has been a long and hard-fought campaign, but as I have always said, my differences with Senator Obama are small compared to the differences we have with Senator McCain and the Republicans"
These were Bill Clinton's words "While these Primary opponents vote alike 90% of the Time whoever the Nominee is we have many differences with Republican issues." I Now that many feel Hillary was very mistreated but if you Voted for Hillary for her issues then you have NOTHING in common with McCain. If you vote for McCain just because of spite. You are setting back every effort Hillary, Bill, and Chelsea have worked for. Would you rather have Hillary working in a Democratic Senate, along with a Democrat House, along with a Democrat President to help protect Womens rights, Help getting Health care are would you rather have a Republican President veto every and any Health Care Bill.
Carly is a really inspiring leader; I worked for HP and listened to several of her rousing speeches in person. She failed in executing her vision, though, which is why she was ousted from HP. I always knew she'd end up in politics, though, where inspiration is more significant than execution.
Anyway, I'm surprised at this webspite all about Hillary's poor treatment--she's a lawyer and a politician, and our country doesn't really treat either kindly. Frankly, I'm going to vote third party, because I think that's the most important message that can be sent at this point. It's a shame we only have politicians to choose from.
If you just bow down and vote for Obama, then you are telling the DNC, Obama and his robot supporters(again I say, he is not a rock star, he is not a messiah, he is a "pathetic excuse for a presidential nominee), the media and the world in general.."Hey, it's ok to be sexist and misogynist--us silly little ladies will vote for any man you tell us too." Fall in line right? My vote will not be hijacked by Obama or the DNC..or fellow women trying to scare me with roe v wade. Hillary was the most qualified candidate in the field, but she was "just" a woman trying to do a "mans" job--and according to Michelle Obama, "Hillary couldn't even run her own house, so how the heck can she trusted to run the white house?" There is no way, no how, ever in my lifetime, that Obama will get my vote. I will fight for Hillary til Denver--but if she is not a choice in November..my vote goes to John McCain, who happens to be a good friend of and to Hillary Clinton.
Carly Fiorina did a great job, she should be McCains VP!
Only a total moron can find fault with Obama and find none with McCain or the Republican party.
Anyone who is of such low intellect and even lower capacity to observe malfeasance and incompetence before their very own faces should just be quiet lest your own unfounded bias be evident. At least have the integrity to honestly state you reason for your choice be it preference, bias or racism. When you take a position, then state what is universally known to be a lie as basis for that position - you declare to all you are an ignorant fool, ready and willing to accept anything on TV/Radio/Newspapers/you favorite "personality".
You liars, racists and phony Christians should remember Christ's admonishment in Matthew 7:1..
"Remove the mote from thine own eye, and then you may see clearly to remove the mote from thy brothers"
To be sure to pick any candidate is an exercise in preference but merely repeating things you are too stupid or lazy to be aware they are lies betrays your real motivation.
What happened? Americans used to pride themselves in independent thinking when did so many of us started blindly following any lying, shill on TV with a $2,000 outfit and professional make-up and hairdo.
You "Yes" men and women just thankful that anyone of "importance" would bother to speak to you (listen to the fawning over Carly speaking to you), you people don't deserve to be Americans. POLITICAL candidates are OUR servants not the other way around.
What is wrong with you people?
I am a former democrat.I will be voting for McCain in November. Obama does not use good judgement,he will not do the right thing, until he is backed up in a corner and then and only then, he tries to convince us that he is a straight foreward person. What has he said that would make any of you want to vote for him???????? I can't vote for someone that has ties to people, that is so against all white people.
I would like to make it clear at this juncture - because it seems some have yet to grasp the fact - Hillary will not be the 44th US president because she DID NOT GET NOMINATED. The jig is up folks, battle is all over.
Carly is spewng hate just as much as Hannity, O'reily, Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh on the far right. Hillary is asking all of us to vote for Obama because he and she have the same ideas to make this a better country. The Bush administration has destroyed this country so badly it will take years to repair the damage. Hillary and Obama working together, whether he picks her for his cabinet or not, can do much to repair our foreign relations. We need to bring our boys and girls home from this illigetimate war in Iraq. McBush says we may be there for 100 years. He said he would run a clean campaign but already he is attacking Michele with out and out lies. Hillary has done so much good in the senate that I think she can be a powerful asset just where she is. Obama is the answer to a greater America and I for one will stand behind Hillary and vote for Obama. Those of you who are so spiteful that you will vote republican to get even, please change your registration because we don't need you in the Democratic party.
I recently heard John McCain compare Obama's candidacy to Carter's second run. I disagree. To me, it's much more like McGovern's run in 1972.
That was a big grassroots movement, too, full of extreme left-wingers, college students and newly minted voters. In the interest of full disclosure, I was part of that grassroots movement --canvassing neighborhoods, making calls, and even housing some of the young McGovernites who were travelling around the country to work the primaries.
My husband, a blue collar worker, became so offended at the way the "rabbits," as he called them, acted, he wound up voting for Shirley Chisolm. (They were vegetarians; he's a meat and potatoes kind of guy.) But what really offended him was the fact that "the rabbits" would plop their butts on his couch at night -- after eating his food (the lettuce, anyway)and sleeping in one of his beds -- smoke pot and spout platitudes that basically denigrated everything he believed in.
Then at the convention, the McGovernites manuevered successfully to throw out one of the state's elected delegations (I think maybe Michigan's)and replace them with a pro-McGovern delegation. (Sound familiar?)McGovern also managed to seat many of his rookie activists by unseating delegates who represented organized labor, giving labor the big middle finger.
When it all shook out in November, the Democratic Party lost by 49, (or was it 50?), states.
The point of this tale is that, just as in 1972, it has been the behavior of many of the inexperienced and, frankly, historically ignorant Obamabots that has thoroughly disgusted many in the party and turned them away from Obama. Just as in 1972, they seem to think that they can ignore, denigrate and cajole the core constituents of the party -- like seniors, women and blue-collar workers -- and still have us show up to vote for their man in November.
Many of the Obama people blogging here need to make note of that. Suggesting that we are irrational, emotional, ill-informed whiners isn't doing your man's cause any good. It just ingrains the resentment, and ignores that many of us, through years of being in the trenches, have come to recognize an empty suit.
You might be able to win in November without us. But you may also be in for a rude awakening of the kind we McGovernites experienced in 1972.
This Unncessary Democratic Woman will be voting for Senator McCain.
The republicans do not offer me anything. I will be permitted to sit in a "log cabin". They will let me out once in awhile to have lunch with Mary Cheney if I behave myself.
Look one and all. If you still want your voice help Hillary pay off her debt. She had our backs and we don't need to be whining and abandoning her. She still has a fist full of delegates and needs to take them to the convention free and clear. She can use those delegates and her voice as a wedge at the convention. Continue to stick with Hillary Clinton. The Republicans will be there after the convention. So don't put your energies there.
Thanks for this site.
Thank you, Thank you, for welcoming us Carly Fiorina and Senator McCain. We have been abandoned by our party, told we are no longer necessary- to sit, shut up and get in line. The way Senator Clinton was treated was horrendous, I have never witness such a public stoning. Many of us will never support Obama, his thugs and the DNC that allowed and condoned such actions. They treated us like dirt and expect us to go back like abused wives. Well, this is one Democrat who will not be going back to the fold.
I am not naïve; I realize there are some issues with Senator McCain I don’t agree with. But at this point my options are: choose a decent, honorable man who has more than paid his dues and will always do what is best for this country or a pretender who got an easy pass and may just finish this country off with his incompetence, radical views, deceitful ways and dangerous associations. I hope Senator McCain continues to reach out, there are many unhappy Clinton supporters: male, female, gay, Latino, willing to choose Senator McCain if treated with respect and be willing to work towards our needs. Especially economic. On another note: Please disregard Obama trolls that come here claiming to be Hillary supporters. You will get many claiming to be Hillary supporters but then adopt the abusive tactic of trying to shame us for not putting up with their abuse. Or you will get the “concerned” supporter who just can not bring himself/herself to McCain. For the most part they are Obamabots, here to spread “The One’s” talking points and demonize Senator McCain. Their intention is to savage McCain as Hillary was savaged. True Hillary supporters will either be sitting this election out or voting for McCain. It is up to the Senator McCain now to see how many of us will sit home and home many will cross over…. I too will be visiting this site often and referring friends and family.
Barry, sweetie, you ain't never gonna get my vote.
A vote for Barry is a vote for the oppresion and denigration of women.
I lived in the silicon valley during Carly's CEO days at HP. She's a smart lady, strong, and got a raw deal in the business world run by the good ol boys club (sound familiar?). For me, it will always be about character. Hillary was my hero because I think she believed in this country and was willing to fight for it. With Obama, not so much. He wants everything to be easy, or at least be fixed by a speech. He didn't want to talk about Wright, Ayers, Pfleger, Michelle, etc.. and the MSM let him. When Hillary asked for more debates, he couldn't be bothered. I don't want a prima donna to be my president. I'll take my chances with McCain. At least I know he loves this country.
McCain '08!
Vanessa
Colorado
PUMA ex Democrat
CARLY FIONA, THERE ARE FIFTY IN MY FAMILY THAT WILL BE VOTING FOR YOUR GUY. FIRST TIME VOTING REPUBLICAN
Hillary herself said, "Sen McCain and I both have a lifetime of experience to offer this country. Sen Obama has a speech he made in 2004." Anyone notice that Nobamas poll numbers are dropping already,,,,tsk tsk
ALL of these people with PRO-OBAMA posts are LIARS, LIARS, and (oh, yes) LIARS. They are PAID by the Obama campaign to come here and CONFUSE people.
If you like McCain, vote for him as it is your perogative. If you don't like McCain or Obama, try Cynthia McKinney or write-in Hillary.
Hillary is pro Universal Health Care and anti-privatizing social security. Obama and McCain agree on those issues. McCain may not be your cup of tea on Iraq, but he has a son fighting there. Oh, yes, and Obama is a racist whereas John McCain adopted an orphan from St. Mother Theresa. Facts are facts.
Ignore the paid Obama posters. Have you noticed that all of there supposed blog links do NOT work?
Very nice message from Carly Fiorina, thank you!
Mark, how can YOU look in the mirror with a straight face? The DNC, RBC, and Dem Party elders, et. al., have been nothing short of an embarassment and it's actually much worse than that.
You criticize McCain for leaving his first wife (& it's more complicated than you suggest) but look what Obama & his campaign, his supporters, the media, and, quite significantly, the party did to Hillary! No pro-woman party would do as they did this past year. She is the one who won the nomination, not Obama when all the voter fraud and thuggery is taken into account, and now Dean doesn't even want HRC's name on the ballot at the convention!
It's not only outrageous, it's just plain sick. You all figured it'd be "okay", women will come home to vote in Nov. no matter what. Well, you all figured wrong. I will not reward such depraved idiocy by voting for Obama. It would be like staying in an abusive relationship.
We do not need his brand of Chicago-style politics taking over the Dem Party AND the nation. Obama's "movement" too much smacks of fascism for me. No way will I ever cast a vote for him or it. Voting for McCain is a first step and an important step and the right step.
The Dem Party brought this on themselves. I believe we are at a critical point in this country. Even setting aside Obama's fascist tendencies, he just does not have the focus, experience and qualifications necessary to deal with all that needs to be done. HRC has all of this and more -- minus the fascism of course -- in addition to having the DEMOCRATIC votes to back her up. If the Dems do the right thing and nominate HRC in Aug, I will vote for her but if Obama is nominated, I will vote for McCain.
It has to be done. You all forced our hand. The choice is yours: either do the right thing and nominate HRC or we will each do our part to make sure Obama loses in Nov.
"ALL of these people with PRO-OBAMA posts are LIARS, LIARS, and (oh, yes) LIARS. They are PAID by the Obama campaign to come here and CONFUSE people."
No, I don't. Thanks for the masterful analysis.
"Ignore the paid Obama posters. Have you noticed that all of there supposed blog links do NOT work?"
Mine always work.
All in all, the majority of posts on this board have not been horribly vicious, albeit some of them are in bad taste and attack those of us who are still reeling from the disappointment that Hillary didn't have enough superdelegates to pull off her nomination. I am concerned though with people who will vote the party and not the person or the issues. We "aint" going to find perfection in any candidate that's running and need to keep reminded that whoever runs can't do anything without Congress supporting them. Hence, all the good entitlements or changes in entitlements aren't going to work w/o Congress' approval - need I say anymore?
As far as attacking the President, let's keep in prospective 9/11 and the radicals, Muslims, Tailban, al queda, etc. that felt entitled to hurt us and hurt innocent people in NY, DC & PA. Prez Bush was put in a position that no US President was put in and if you think back to when it all happened and how most patriotic Americans responded - you will see a great support for President Bush!!! If you weren't sickened and heartbroken by the attack on our country and the murder of our countrymen - then shame on you. No one deserved what happened on 9/11.
Let's keep an intelligent dialogue going with what we know be it from the Libs or conserv or from our own research and make the best possible use of our vote.
I say God Bless America!!!
Pam
abuseno@hotmail.com
Right now the republicans are actually better than the democrats for me. How did this happen??
The democrats let the party be bought by George Soros and his ilk. They let a large portion of people become demonized for their own agenda. They bought, threatened, and bullied Super delegates and voters. They pre loaded caucus states in favor of one candidate well ahead of this process. They punished certain states and not others, in favor of one candidate.
They let sexism be used as a tool to defeat the more qualified female candidate in a ploy that was one of the MOST regressive tactics I've ever seen. They are no longer liberals OR democrats at all.
A liberal does not sit quiet for the hate speech that was spewed forth on every single news network and on blogs and in newspapers. The republicans have used under handed tactics in the past but, this time this party ate it's own with tactics far worse.
These mantras such as "You are not a "TRUE democrat" Oh really? I think those saying this are sheep who will use the hatred of one group against the other at any cost. I think they will use hatred and cheating to "take over" Since that is the case, I am happy to remove myself from you logs. I want nothing to do with your rigged election.
Go ask the poor and working people in other countries where Mr. Soros has had his money put to work what THEY think of him. He exploits people as a fine art for his own agenda. You who are now being used by this party and Mr. Soros will find out sooner or later that you were had.
I'll do what's the right thing here. It's the DNC's own fault that they are in this situation. Until the democrats represent something closely resembling what is democratic I have no where to go except to vote McCain to stop them.
This was a take over, it was planned and they just didn't count on us not towing the line.
This video shows a strong woman who is speaking to our concerns...something the other half of this party doesn't care to do. We are expendable. So we have a train to catch. Brazile bought the tickets. Go complain to her if you care about the issues you say you do so much.
Sexism? It's the new war I'm fighting.
Hillary Clinton received all the insults like naming monster, hore and many others, available in the dictionary from Barack Hussein Obama (BHO) camp. Hillary is vastly experienced but could not deal with nasty politics from BHO supporters plus congress who received favor from Clinton.
In view of the above ladies should be united and vote for Senator Mccain.
The middle and working class people have no other choice but voting for John McCain. At least he is a war hero while OB seems unpatriotic. We can’t vote for a candidate who can’t distant himself from the Pastor who hate Americans more than anyone in this world for 20 years beside no experience. The Democrat seems not learning enough by keep endorsing the liberal and loser one after the other.
However, Sen. John McCain should work a little harder for the economic, healthcare and ending the Iraq war if he is elected. Otherwise, he will go down in the history at the third term Bush in 2012. And personally I think he can’t do much if he works against the will of majority Americans want to with Democrat controlled Congress.
Ms. Fiorina's thinnly veiled support for McCain is laughable. Though she is clearly a talented and intelligent person, she is obviously driven by her taste for power and money. Her vision of "prosperity" as seen by her fellow republicans is an America where the rich get richer and the poor stay poor, regardless of race or sex.
I believe she gave a terrific speech and will definitely be a Hillary supporter voting for John McCain. All Hillary supporters need to get out and vote for John McCain because if you just do not vote, I believe it would be a vote for Obama. We need everyones voice to be heard, and show Dean and the others that they cannot dictate who will be our next president. Please get out and vote for McCain.
Now let me get this straight. Because I choose not to blindly fall in line and support Obama, that makes me: simple-minded, a moron, a racist, a poor loser, a phony Christian, stupid, lazy, overly emotional and unable to see the bigger picture.
Gee, those are really compelling arguments that just make me want to start marching in lock-step.
And I'm the moron?
Might have to change my opinion of Carly Fiorina. Saw her on Hannity&Colmes last week. If I ever run for office, I would want her by my side. She was not only extremely knowledgeable, she was cool under fire. Not to mention that she was a gracious lady through it all. Perhaps she should run second chair to McCain, she certainly has the experience.
I, like so many of my sisters, will vote for McCain. I also hope that Hillary will run again in 2012. Perhaps by then the DNC will finally get it - - but most likely, they will just run out and get yet another male to run against her. And if they finally get off their power trip, maybe next time they will get someone with a more substantial résumé than the one they presented to us this year.
And don’t play that race card with me, if Obama was Colin Powell, he’d get my vote in a heartbeat - - it’s a shame we lost a man that we could all believe in.
If I knew more about Obama, I might reconsider, but so far the only thing I see is a man bought and paid for by special interests and the DNC. I see a candidate charismatically spouting sound bites from a TelePrompTer telling the voters exactly what they want to hear - - are they really his ideas or the ideas of the speech writer?. We can always look up McCain’s record, but we do not have much to go on with Obama. He said he would not have voted to go to war, but with the erroneous reports supplied to the House, I think he might also have acquiesced at that time. It is very easy to say “what you would have done” after the fact and “what I will do in the future” which hasn’t arrived yet, but sound bites don’t cut it for me - - produce your record proving the truth of what you say.
Mark,
This has nothing to do with emotion.
We are voting for McCain because the Democratic Party disrespected us, abandoned democratic principles to select rather than elect a nominee, and forced the winner out. The winner with the popular vote.
Why do you think women leave abusive relationships???
It's a calculated move.
Hillary also told us, before the Democratic Party forced her to stop, that Obama is not qualified to be president, let alone commander in chief. Remember???
Sure, we love our causes. But we love our country also.
Hillary, or McCain.
Not emotional, not complicated. Very simple.
Hillary is a true patriot.Puerto Ricans put their hopes on her. BO will form an alliance with the corrupt Governor of Puerto Rico and destroy all chances of bringing full democracy to our beloved island. Hillary knows our dreams. BO will only hurt us with his selfish politics.one of many reasons my vote must go to John McCain. I hope HRC will understand.
Puerto Ricans put their hopes on Hillary. BO will form an alliance with the corrupt Governor of Puerto Rico and destroy all chances of bringing full democracy to our beloved island. Hillary knows Puerto Rico. BO will only hurt us with his selfish politics.One of many reasons my vote(PA)must go to John McCain. I hope HRC will understand.
I'll never vote OB. I'm continually shocked that so many people think it's okay to just leave Iraq and let them fend for themselves. How quickly they've all forgotten how much support *FOR* the war there was from *BOTH* sides originally. Now that it's costing money we're supposed to bow out? It's a complex issue and women's rights are at the forefront of it in my mind. Islamic law (as it's being practiced and preached) in most Muslim countries is extremely oppressive to women. I know women from Muslim countries and I've heard directly what it's like. I'm not sure what chance the women have in those countries if we just keep walking away. It's not just about oil or money - it's about social justice and compassion. We kill thousands of innocent American civilians in the U.S. every day by supporting corporations that poison us with chemicals, drugs and toxic dumping. We spend billions if not trillions of dollars supporting these corporations. Democrats and Republicans alike. There is no political division in greed.
The war or other scare tactics like "women's rights in America" are miniscule to me when compared to how we're destroying ourselves, our land and our future.
We need a very strong leader who is able to take action as things continue to challenge us. OB is NOT that leader. I don't believe he ever will be that leader.
I'm voting McCain because I'm educated on the topics and he's the next best to Clinton.
Yes, a Feminists can vote for McCain. Sometimes there is a bigger picture to consider. To those who don't get it, don't try.
Hillary is the best choice for the new leader of tomorrow. But since Obama's Media, Obama's Cheating supporters (anyone see the caucuses chaos?), and Obama's team of race-baiting Clinton-bashers helped him take the nomination from her--and from the millions of under-represented women she stood up for--then we have no choice but to NOT give him our vote.
McCain is an honorable man. We'll survive 4 years while he resolves Iraq, gets a good team of economists together, and rallies the Democrats and Republicans together to save the planet. He won't get a second term, so the next charter WILL BE OURS...
Hillary in 2012!!!!!!!!
How can Hillary give up so cheerfully and just hand over the nomination to this guy, who doesn't know beans. And now, she stands cheerfully side by side with him ( just like she's done with Bill, no matter how hard these guys step on her ), all this makes me wonder , where is her SELF-RESPECT, where is her so called FIGHT ???? All of us really counted on her to become our next PRESIDENT, she is such a " macher ", we are all desolate.
McCain is anti-choice and anti-woman regardless of what Carly Fiorina says. And I say this as someone who voted for, worked for, and donated to Hillary Clinton.
Vote 3rd Party (Cynthia McKinney, anyone?), or don't vote at all. But don't give your vote to McCain, so he can dismantle Roe, and vote against the ERA, and continue his record of 0% from NARAL.
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