Enduring the Hypocrisy
It’s too late to be pacified by the appearance of a flag pin or speeches about forsaking one’s past; the Democratic party has their presidential nominee. In the aftermath of the events over the last several months, it has occurred to me that the inequities and discrimination experienced by Senator Clinton must be addressed. The reality we are faced with is obvious, Senator Clinton’s concession is indeed two steps backward to her former strident forward momentum towards women winning key leadership roles.
The question is, “Who is responsible?” The immediate answer is Howard Dean and the DNC. Why should they be charged with sexism and misogyny? If the purpose of the primary season is to discern the best candidate to lead a party to victory in November, then one wonders whether the competing candidates have been given fair support by their party. Senator Clinton has not received the fair support of her party. During the primary season, not once was she openly defended by the DNC or supported against the sexist comments by the liberal media. The silence of the DNC allowed them to minimize her authority and her position as the frontrunner. Did the DNC refuse their support of her in response to conservative attacks on her? Or did the DNC desire to serve a greater good in the illusion of an Obama presidency in the interest of promoting diversity? The popularity of Senator Obama who was championed by the both the youth vote and monetary support, blinded the DNC to what was happening to Senator Clinton who was being unfairly maligned by the media.
The DNC, however, was short-sighted. While Senator Clinton forged ahead on the campaign trail winning support from constituents who truly reflect the plurality of this country, the DNC threw their support behind Senator Obama without vetting his business, political and religious associates all in the interest of racial equality. This lack of scrutiny deprived Senator Clinton of the recognition she deserved and ignored her supporters. The working class, the elderly, Hispanics and the unique voice of women were denied their desire to see a strong, intelligent, fair-minded and compassionate leader bring her skills to the highest office of this country.
What are women left with today? Today’s woman voter may be left feeling disillusioned, frustrated or angered. Yet, the presumption that she will fall in lock step with the Democratic Party after having fought the good fight with Senator Clinton is not a foregone conclusion. Women have numerous options to ponder between now and the November election.
As women voters seek to have their voices heard, it our sincere hope that you will make your voice heard by both parties regardless of affiliation so that the strides Senator Clinton achieved will not be undermined. Let us work together to discover which path will promote women’s issues, which are the issues of all Americans.
posted by Real Democrats USA @ 6:54 PM
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62 Comments:
I am with my sisters who will NEVER vote for Obama and wish to send a clear meassage to the DNC who so flagrantly dishonored our Hillary. I am a 63 year-old working woman residing in Michigan and am incensed about the treatment of Hillary. The message I got is excruciatingly clear: it simply didn't matter that our candidate is the most intelligent, compassionalte, courageous, hardworking, honest and accomplished candidate. She could not compete with the arrogance and hyprocracy of Obama and his entourage of Nation of Islam supporters who continue to threaten this nation. Audacity is the DNC Rules Committe action to steal designated votes and re-appropriate un-earned votes in favor of Obama. My husband and I are both proudly abandoning the Judas "democratic" party and re-registering as Independents. We cannot compromise our integrity by voting for Obama - EVER.
Thank you ladies for giving me a place to voice my position. Let me know what, if anything, I can do to help this movement.
I was listening to Hardball tonite and heard Chuck Todd refer to all of us as insignificant. Wow, I don't think so. They still expect us to be irrational and just angry. That's not what I read on these pages. We're steadfast to a cause. And, we must stay that way. We must keep our goals in mind. To be respected, we must have voting clout. Again, to be most effective, we need to vote against the dem machine. I will be voting for McCain. I don't agree with him on everything. But, he's definitely the lesser of two evils.
I am not officially a Democrat although I have always voted for Democratic candidates. I am SO disgusted by the misogyny of this year's Dem primary season, so angry with the Democratic Party leaders for refusing to provide even the slightest defense for and protection of Clinton while they virtually coddled Obama, and so unimpressed with this so-called winner of the nomination (can you really call him a "winner" when the race was fixed ??) ....
I refuse to vote for Obama unless Clinton is the VP pick. If she is not on the ticket, I will either sit home in November or I will vote for a 3rd party candidate. Even if I had been a registered Democrat, after watching the Dem Party create this debacle I would feel no allegiance to them.
Obama NEEDS the votes of most of the Clinton supporters, I say lets make him and his Dem Party leader pals WORK for them.
I'm glad I found this web site, thank you to those of you who put it together.
Dear Judy and Cindy...
I happenned upon this page and i am so glad to ave an organization to join who shares my views and values about this campaign. Today I listened to some fellow sisters vent about their feelings and I now know others feel my pain regarding the terrible way Senator Clinton was treated.this is a letter I wrote to The New York times in ?feby they could not be bothered to print it.
I too will not vote for Barrac O he has the gall to put Senator down also Presidnt Clinton.... now he is soooo gracious 'he would like President Clnton and Senator Clinton to go around and canvas with him so he "The Crowned Prince of MSNBC" and all the MEDIA can become the "PRESIDENT" That Opra who is she anyway? not a real woman that is for sure.... backing someone for "colour" how absurd. I know America has lost a TERRIFIC opportunity to have a real LEADER in the WHITEHOUSE. The Kennedys, most of them back stab her for their own agenda.... now Caroline is picking the VICE PRESIDENT!!! Go figure.I am mad,mad,mad... i had to weep today to get rid of some of the frustration. I wished she did not endorse him that wheesel.I do not like McCain, so I will not vote in November unless it is just for vindictiveness so Obama will loose.I am a Democrat but i am between a rock and a hard place......Sorry for being so long...by the way I am from Jamaica of english.Scottish, Indian and jamaican ancestors... so i am doing this for any other motive that to support A wonderful Lady as Senator Clinton. Chelsae did work so hard too. Let me know what I can do...I will also write her name in if possible.
Letter to The N.Y.Times.
An Open Letter to the Real Women of America.
Women are a force in the world we are daughters, sisters, mothers, wives and friends and plus in-laws. We have the power to make positive changes in our country for the better…. To make this USA a softer, gentler place in which we have to live. Now I do not know why women are missing the point to support Senator Clinton….. Instead so many are ridiculing her and calling her the most awful names…siding with men, now voting for Obama and crowing him Prince of America. All the good things she has done is ignored, why is this?
In this election year….there are many mountains to climb, rivers to cross and valleys to span and we all need to join hands and work together and elect our first woman president, to really have “change” a new perspective….. seen from the softer female outlook, so we need to shed some of this harshness in our society. The stakes are indeed high and as women “we can do anything” to quote Vickie Milazzo. The White House needs, begs for a new perspective, not the testosterone type of thinking and doing but the “softer side of the equation. We have had men making the decision for long enough, just changing the colour of the man means nothing….. he is still a man, so what. So women please let us rally around the “one woman in the race “and get her elected so she can continue to work for all men and women. Let us protect her from the likes of “Hardball” and all the David Schusthers involved.
We need to get over this fallacy that a woman needs to a man to be complete…. We compliment each other men/women 50/50 working arrangement. Let us make our voices be heard as we unite and get to know the facts and get involved. Some women holds it that because Senator Clinton choose to repair her marriage relationship and save her family, during those dark days with the impeachment, she is a bad person ….. many of these same women whose husband have been worst in their relationship condemns her, how strange.
How many women are aware that in her pain and grief Senator Clinton went to South Africa to council with Nelson Mandella? He was able to help and console her giving her a different perspective. Why did the Americans not reach out to her and help her instead of condemning when she was struggling with all her pain? Are we too self-centered and uncaring to reach out to one in pain? When the media constantly touts the theory that so called educated women do not support Senator Clinton it begs the question, why? Is it jealousy or their own insecurity? Women this is the time to vote for our daughters future to set them an example that as a female they can reach for the highest post in our land.
I am a college graduate and cannot understand why a college graduate picks holes in Senator Clinton, please check out her biography? Her work in so many areas for worthy causes, please give her the opportunity to expand and do even more for children, women and men… for all of America.
On Thursday a man I barely know felt it a burning need to tell me he is leaning towards Obama, he proceeded to inform me as if I needed to know this information … that he cheated on his wife when she was pregnant with their child!! Yet this chap condemns Presid t Clinton, then as if he was right in his betrayal of his wife and their marriage vows.
Susan B. Anthony once said that "No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her."
Therefore, I will be joining thousands (and lets hope millions) of women who will be voting for McCain this November as a protest to the treatment of Hillary Clinton by the DNC. It is about time that we teach the DNC not to take us for granted and assume that they can disrespect female Democrats and expect us to follow the party no matter what. Well, not this time! Enough is enough!
Only by uniting and making our voices clear will we teach the DNC "elite" that our voices and votes count. And before Obama supporters refer to me as an uneducated, ignorant, conservative, or racist, let me make this clear: I have the same degrees as Mr. Obama does, I am as liberal as they come, and I have never been a racist.
Women Unite!!!!!!!!!
I'm glad to be finding so many Hillary supporters that are just as angry as I ,the way the media and DNC., has portrayed us as just "sore losers"..The campaign was stolen from Hillary and us. The "media and Dnc's darling" has "friends" coming out of the woodworks every day and seems,if possible, each is worse than before. Fr. Pglager and Rev. Wright have gone BACK to the pulpits now that the campaign is over and his friends are either going to jail or needs to go. Obama and his wife are racist, radicals, and anti-white, anti-American..and they want someone like this to be a President? I don't think so!Obama is what he thinks you want him to be at any given time..Dishonest, and scary if you ask me.McCain is not my first choice, however, Obama is no choice at all..Maybe, we will not count some of his votes or steal votes to give to Hillary..like the Dnc did to Hillary.Dean and Pelosi say we will untify by November and vote Obama..man, is he stupid or what???
Hi Women for Fair Politics: Kudos! I will be putting you on my blogroll in the next few seconds.
I am now www.DemocratInExile.com and was formerly www.MenforHillary.org and HillaryNowObamaLater.org.
I will be morphing into Men4Women.org after November.
My ads for this campaign season were "Men for Hillary Clinton. Ditch your sexism. Elect qualified women now."
Keep the faith!
Dear Women for Fair Politics,
Both Senator Obama and Senator Clinton were formidable candidates. Policy wise, they were very similar. However, Obama ran a strategically better campaign. This is simply evident in the fact that he won. Hillary Clinton ran a historic campaign for the Democratic nomination for President of the United States. Unfortunately for her and her many supporters, she did not pass the 2,118 delegate mark needed to become the nominee. In Obama’s speech on the final primary night, he says, “Senator Hillary Clinton has made history in this campaign not just because she's a woman who has done what no woman has done before, but because she's a leader who inspires millions of Americans with her strength, her courage, and her commitment to the causes that brought us here tonight.” In that speech he spent more time praising Clinton then he did focusing on the significance of his own historic win, becoming the first African American to be the presumptive nominee of a major US political party. Women for Fair Politics, please do not overlook the significance of Obama’s groundbreaking victory.
Senator Obama and Senator Clinton both experienced “inequities and discrimination.” I disagree strongly with your statement that “Senator Clinton’s concession was two steps backward to her former strident forward momentum towards women winning key leadership roles.” This statement belittles all of Senator Clinton’s efforts. Actually, Clinton’s historic campaign has made it easier for women to be viewed by the mainstream public as leaders, worthy of running this country. Her campaign was one large step for a women; one giant leap for womankind.
It is understandable that many woman voters are “disillusioned, frustrated or angered”. However, those who support Clinton but vote for McCain are foolish. By doing this, you compromise your integrity and compromise all of Hillary’s efforts and beliefs. A true, devoted supporter of Hillary Clinton should and must support Barack Obama to be the next President of the United States. Remember, Hillary Clinton said, “I’ve had every opportunity and blessing in my own life – and I want the same for all Americans. Until that day comes, you will always find me on the front lines of democracy – fighting for the future.” She will not be able to be on the front lines and help accomplish the goals for which she stands for if her own supporters support rival John McCain.
Clinton and Obama both realized that “fairness” is not a common idea in the game of politics and even though they had some differences of opinion on how the country should be led, they both agreed that in order for the voices for fairness to be heard, a change must occur in Washington and a democratic president must be elected in the fall.
Sincerely,
Chad Smith
Greensburg, PA
Email: Smooveces86@yahoo.com
Thank you judyb. You said that so well. My dauther and I will never vote for Obama. we are both independents. The choices are poor, I'll write in Hillary.She has been the bravest to endure what Obama supporters and endorsers, not to mention the media have done to her. Yes, the rules committee,too. I am most disappointed in all of those people who supported her a year ago and then changed their mind.
I have to agree with Judy's comments about Obama. The truth about his affiliations with the radical left wing of the Democratic Party has become dangerous. We do not need a Black Revisionist Theocrat leading the charge for the Hispanic Democrats. We don't need our Social Security benefits taxed out of existence. Our Country was founded on moderation, not extremism on the Right or on the Left. History has been the judge and America will never support them.
Why would you doom your daughters to the conservative policies of John McCain who called Roe v Wade a decision made by "activist judges" I agree with your sentiments regarding Clinton's poor treatment by the media, but if you supported Clinton because you agreed with her principles and you saw her as a brilliant leader first and a woman second, how could you consider voting for someone like McCain whose policies stand in stark contrast to what Sen. Clinton stands for. It is unconscionable to vote for a third term for McCain out of spite. You call it sending a message -- the only message you are sending is you don't care about our future.
The way the far left treated her was horrible. I cannot see how anyone who was a supporter of Hillary's could just forget that and support Obama
It seems that I missed something during the past few months, perhaps someone here could enlighten me. I am well aware of the shocking sexist treatment Hilary Clinton received from many members of the media. However, I am not aware that she was treated unfairly by the Democratic party. I also do not know anything about these unfairly re-appropriated votes. I would sincerely appreciate if someone could provide me with a few examples, or at least links to websites that would provide the information.
In anticipation of some of the responses I might receive, I must say that I do not think that the Democratic party "coddled" Senator Obama in anyway (a few short months ago he was far behind in superdelegates) or that they could have fairly defended or protected Senator Clinton from anything. As a woman, I think misogyny is just as foolish and disgusting as the next person - so I am not saying anyone who made such comments was right in doing so. However, to say that the DNC should have provided special support for Senator Clinton is directly opposed to the idea that they unfairly supported Obama (again, I am asking for evidence of this).
Occasionally, politics gets dirty. This is the unfortunate truth of the current campaign system that is followed in the US. The party a candidate belongs to is not in the position to provide support for any of its candidates. Its only responsibility is to set regulations for its electoral process and do their part in choosing a presidential candidate by way of giving their superdelegate votes to the candidate of their choosing. That said, where were these calls for defense from the DNC when racist sentiment was being thrown at Obama? Anyone remember all that buzz about Obama attending a "Madrassa" (this, by the way, is nothing more than the Arabic word for school - to say he attended one is equivalent to saying he attended an "escuela"). Also, it is my opinion that the Obama team did very little mudslinging in this campaign(I myself cannot pinpoint an example, but I am happy to learn of instances I may have missed from others). I will leave out discussion about the Clinton campaign's attacks on Obama, as that is beyond the scope of the point I am trying to raise.
To one anonymous poster who wrote: "That Opra[h] who is she anyway? not a real woman that is for sure.... backing someone for "color" how absurd", your letter also includes the following - ". . . Now I do not know why women are missing the point to support Senator Clinton . . . we all need to join hands and work together and elect our first woman president". I agree that voting for color is ludicrous. I do also think however, that voting for someone for no reason other than the fact that she is a woman, is just as ludicrous. The fact that you feel Oprah must not be a real woman who because she did not support Senator Clinton leads me to believe that you might disagree.
To sum up, as I think this post is already a tad too long, if you really feel that voting for Senator McCain is the best thing for this nation - in terms of his proposed policy or past experience or whatever else- then by all means go ahead and do so. If however, you are only voting for him, or not voting at all to "send a message to the democratic party", then I must point this out. The DNC will not receive any message at all. You, will, however end up with a President who might not share your concerns or primary interests and might not make political decisions that work best for you.
And, lastly, because I just cannot resist, how on earth are the Obama's racist, anti-white and anti-American? "Only by uniting and making our voices clear will we teach the DNC "elite" that our voices and votes count." - What happens to individuals who actually voted for Obama, do their own votes not count, or are they just not as important as your own?
One more time - please ladies, vote based on the issues. I don't care which candidate that leads you to choose.
The working class, the elderly, Hispanics and the unique voice of women were denied their desire to see a strong, intelligent, fair-minded and compassionate leader bring her skills to the highest office of this country.
Dear Women for Fair Politics,
Not all women in the United States voted for Senator Clinton. Do their own voices not deserve to be heard? What about Hispanic, working class or elderly Americans who did not vote for her (I admit that she received votes from a large percentage of this constituencies, but that number was not 100%). Do they not deserve to be heard as well?
In every political campaign, as in any competition, there must be a winner and a loser. Even if 100% of these groups voted for Mrs. Clinton, the United States does not consist only of these groups. To say that Obama only won the candidacy because people voted "in the name of racial equality" is foolish, based on no evidence at all, and provides ammunition to those who would dismiss the intelligence of supporters of your movement (which is not to say that I do).
My dear women for Fair Politics. I feel your pain. I only want to urge one thing of you, and I hope that you will hear this; BEFORE you commit to voting for John McCain, I beg of you to do a little independent research. I am not asking you to vote for Obama, or even not to vote for McCain. I only ask that if you vote for McCain, you do it by making a conscious and informed decision, rather than acting on emotional vindictiveness. Most women are not aware that McCain is against a woman's right to choose abortion, and has said (on tape) that his goal is to reverse roe v. wade.
There are, of course, other issues that I truly believe many of you would be both interested, and likely surprised to find out, but this is an issue that is very important to many women who are not aware of his political stance on the matter.
Please, please, please, just hear what I'm saying, and look into it on your own. I know that Youtube has several interviews with him where you can hear him say it in his own words. There are websites where you can download and view every single bill they have authored, co-authored and voted on while in the senate. Bottom line, don't take anyones word for it. Don't listen to the media. Don't listen to rumors. Just find out for yourself, and if you still strongly feel that you can't vote for Obama, and discover issues that might keep you from voting for McCain then I urge you to either write in Hillary's name, or refuse to vote altogether.
Thanks.
Gloria Williams
I have became an independent because of the sexism in the media and the vitriolic comments by Obama supporter all over the internet, even on international news websites. The downside of the passion of these young Obamacans is that they don't realize the disrespect they show for Hillary and now McCain shows the new kind of politics that Obama claims he can bring the country is way more toxic than the old kind of politics. The nasty things said about Hillary all over the internet was disgusting and these millenials think they can be this toxic because it's anonymous. My prediction is that these toxic cyberbullies will keep attacking women who don't tow the line with their votes. What does that say about their new kind of politics.
I have became an independent because of the sexism in the media and the vitriolic comments by Obama supporter all over the internet, even on international news websites. The downside of the passion of these young Obamacans is that they don't realize the disrespect they show for Hillary and now McCain shows the new kind of politics that Obama claims he can bring the country is way more toxic than the old kind of politics. The nasty things said about Hillary all over the internet was disgusting and these millenials think they can be this toxic because it's anonymous. My prediction is that these toxic cyberbullies will keep attacking women who don't tow the line with their votes. What does that say about their new kind of politics.
Really judyb? Nation of Islam??? Get your facts straight. Oh, and good plan...lets put McCain in the white house because we're bitter about Clinton's loss. If you REALLY believed in what Hillary was saying you'd realize that her and Obama aren't that different when it comes to policy. You're bitter because you won't admit that you wanted Hillary to win BECAUSE she is a woman. You see sexism goes both ways. Former Clinton supporters who now support McCain only reveal their true hypocrisy. I'm sure this won't get posted because of the moderation. I see only lock step opinions on this blog.
Why would anyone vote for a presidential candidate:
Who doesn't know how many states there are.
Who thinks his American uncle freed Auschwitz.
Who thinks Arabic is the languge in Afghanistan.
Who gives a speech on race , but sits in a church for 20 years where they preach racial hatred.
Who considers Rev. Wright part of his family.
20 year friendship w/ Father Flager.
Tony Rezko, William Ayres,list goes
on & on & on.
Now he has a website to fight smears, like we can trust anyone to police themselves. Try factcheck.org instead!!
And finally, what was it that MARTIN LUTHER KING SAID ABOUT NOT JUDGING A MAN BY THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN--_BUT BY THE CONTENT OF HIS CHARACTER!!!
I am still in a state of mourning and angry about the way Senator Clinton was treated by the DNC and the media. I was outraged by the DNC Rules Committee to take Michigan votes and give them to Obama. In protest of the DNC action I have registered with another political party. I hope millions of other women will do the same. Even if Senator Clinton is VP I will not change my mind.
I'm writing on the eve of the death of Tim Russert. Everyone on TV is talking about how wonderful he was. I can only remember how horribly, brutally dishonest and unfair he was to Hillary. In an accusatory tone he demanded that Hillary explain Bill Clinton's "fairy tale" comment about Obama's claim that Obama always opposed the Iraq War. But Russert wouldn't let Hillary speak. He kept talking over her, louder and louder, and simply would not let her respond. It was mean-spirited and shameful. He was so biased and nasty, acting as if he were angry at the injustice to Barack Obama when he absolutely knew the truth - that Bill Clinton was telling the truth, and Tim Russert was preventing Hillary from speaking (the truth).
It was all so twisted and sickening.
I don't know what will become of our country with propaganda replacing news, Democratic Party leaders favoring and ultimately choosing the party's nominee,redistributing delegates according to their wishes without regard to the voters actual votes, coordinating and cooperating with blatantly biased, unfair media.
"Reporters" and pundits are worshipping Tim Russert on TV tonight, and I'm still angry about what Russert did to Hillary. I wonder how many times that happened to Hillary and others without my being aware of it.
Tim Russert worshipped his father and his beloved son so much. He talked about them at every opportunity. It makes me wonder if he had a mother or a wife and what he would have done if he had a daughter?! By the way, another horrible, opinionated, biased "reporter?", Keith Olbermann, said that he never married because he had a series of bad relationships. The misogynistic tone of his rants against Hillary makes it clear why he doesn't get along well with women.
By the way, I heard Olbermann was promoted (above Tim Russert) to be the "face of NBC news." David Shuster (also of MSNBC), who was suspended for making the "pimping Chelsea" comment - suspended because of voluminous complaints from women's organizations - was given his own show shortly after returning from his 2-week supension. MSNBC, "the Obama network," has no shame. And their pick, Barack Obama - who called Hillary a liar and said she would do anything to get elected and only speaks well of her now to get the votes of her supporters - will not get this lifelong (female) Democrat's vote.
Will you post this? Or are you not really in favour of talking about John McCain's boys' club affirmation of sexism against Hillary?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLQGWpRVA7o
I'm sorry folks, but McCain LAUGHED at the characterization of Hillary as a "bitch" and then again at a misogynist "ex-wife" comment and then said that the "bitch" question was "excellent." Wow.
Feminism, whatever the brand, must care about our daughters. A McCain future -- one that is about war, ultra-individualism, and a society that lacks compassion and devalues honesty -- is not one that I want for my daughters.
I know there is anger out there among Hillary supporters, but she is not the only one who experienced discrimination. Yes, Hillary Clinton experienced sexism but Barack Obama experienced racism so it is time to put all of it behind us. Both are ugly and we can be better. Women can be better and can set a new tone. There have been comments on this blog encouraging readers to learn the issues and lets show that as women we will vote thoughtfully not emotionally. McCain opposes a woman's right to choose and he opposes the Lilly Ledbetter Fair pay act for women. Look it up. The next president will be making supreme court appointments. I have much respect for McCain's military career and many of his accomplishments, but feel strongly that Obama's policies are much more supportive of women and much more closely aligned to Hillary's. Hillary understands this which is why she is supporting him and I am grateful to her for that.
The dictionary defines the word 'surreal' as "having an oddly dreamlike quality". That's what this website and these comments are. Surreal. You really live in your own little fantasy worlds don't you. She lost and it wasn't because of sexism. How quickly you forget her almost insurmountable lead when this primary started. The media which you loathe so much was fawning over her, had her crowned already and the GOP was designing their battle plan for her. Obama (like him or hate him) ran a better campaign than she did. Arrogance? You want to talk about arrogance? Mrs. Clinton acted like the presidency was her birthright and underestimated her opponent. She should have read the Art of War. As for you folks, it is very clear that you will not be convinced. That's fine. You want to believe that Obama won zero states and zero votes. I get it. There are people who believe the moon landings were faked. Enjoy your tin foil hats. Vote for John McBush. A woman will be president of this country one day and if she is a democrat and a truly progressive leader I will vote for her and savor her victory. But it won't be Hillary. Not ever. Now then, either get on board with your party, vote your pocketbook, vote for progressive principles or get out of the way.
It's amazing how nasty some of the obamaites are getting. If we don't agree with them we've got a mental problem?-we're bitter?-we're emotional-we're female? They're just trying to shut us up. Well, that's NOT going to happen. We've been too quiet in the past. We've gone along, and in many cases, done what we were told. We trusted too much.
What's gone on during this primary season CANNOT go on again. We MUST make our voices heard.
One more time I'm going to write this. We are now picking the better candidate of the two who are left. We care about our country and will not put an inexperienced person in the White House. The country is now my primary choice. I care about a lot of topics that I disagree with Senator McCain on. But, I care about my country more. He can be your only choice in this case. AND, for this forty year voting Dem, HE'S MY CHOICE!!
I just realized why we're getting so many hits by angry obamaites. They've set up a website to counter negativity on the web. He's enlisting his followers to fight us.
EXCUSE ME. I am not enfringing on their rights to talk the way they want to. I, however, have a right to believe the way I do. I have the right to write what I believe.
This is another example of the aggressive negativity coming from ob's followers. They don't believe we have a right to our opinions. Can you imagine what it would be like if he were in the White House?
We have to stay strong! In fact, the more I read of their negative nonsense, the more I am strong on my decision to vote for Senator John McCain!
. . . this is from a long-time Democrat who cares about the way this country is going.
I have been amazed and appalled at some of the postings on this site. The hate generated by some of the anti-McCain and Hillary-bashers is troubling (a few of the anti-Obama comments could also have been left unsaid). If you do not agree with the majority of disillusioned women on this site that prefer Hillary but will vote McCain in her stead, perhaps you should find a site where others will agree and sympathize with you - - we neither agree nor sympathize with you.
We cannot be deterred. You cannot harass or harangue us into feeling guilty about our designated path to wake up the Democratic Party to the fact that we constitute approximately 50% of their constituency (remember us? - - we are the people they are supposed to be representing but have ignored). They have underestimated us once again and the guilt rests entirely upon their shoulders.
We are not voting for McCain simply to “get even” with the DNC, we are voting for him because he is the most qualified for the job of the two left standing (regardless of the disgraceful treatment of Sen. Clinton during the Primary). Do not make the same mistake the DNC has made in believing we can be “brought into line” just by mouthing Roe V. Wade - - it’s still standing, isn’t it! I find it interesting that some “mothers with daughters” are so concerned with Roe V. Wade: perhaps they should introduce their daughters to alternate forms of birth control - - - “protection” and abstinence come to mind.
I will be voting for John McCain in November as I look at the candidates' ability, experience, and what they have done for our great nation. The office of President is the highest office that should not be taken lightly. Obama is too inexperienced to lead this nation.
My grandmother (lived in the time when women were first given the right to vote) talked to me often about women having the responsibility to get out and vote. She told me that we as women should take this responsibility seriously. She went on to say that if we sit back and not vote, we only give our vote away and send the message that we do not care about our right to vote.
So in this recent Dem primay elecion process we have experienced a differet approach to eliminating voters' rights. We have seen many voters register, go vote, and have their votes taken away from them because of rules that someone made up. How can anyone take away votes? and then reinstate 1/2 votes? How can someone declare they are the presumed nominee when states were not finished holding their state conventions?
Well, as we now have seen the DNC in action with our votes, I understand what my Grandmother meant about people taking women voters' right to vote away. Someone in this election was able to do exactly that - take away votes -- both men and women that had exercised their right to vote. All the years of my life I never would have imagined that today I would have witnessed voters not having their votes counted. We are in a serious situation for voters.
Please do exercise your right to vote and keep working on women's rights.
The DNC stole our voter's rights away from us, can we allow this to continue in the USA? Do not stay at home on election day and give into the ones that want to control and eliminate your right, go vote! Let the DNC know that your vote counts. Take back your voting rights and vote against Obama.
Look, I know you are all upset by what you think is a slight-of-hand by the DNC regarding Senator HRC. But you must let that anger disperse and think beyond your own needs:
#1. You're not just voting for Barack Obama - you're voting for the leader, the masthead of the Democratic Party. To do otherwise is destructive to our cause. The party is already disintegrating dangerously, and losing its credibility across this country.
2. When you vote for a president(of any affiliation) you are also likely voting for any supreme or lower federal court justices that that president may choose to appoint during his/her term of office! Do you want a bunch of conservative leaning judges to tell you how to live your life?
3. For the ladies here: What has the republican party done to protect your right to choose what's best for your body?
4. Question for Moms AND Dads: Do you want a pro-war candidate in the Whitehouse which increases the likelihood of your young ones being sent off to war?
5. Switching to, and voting Independent, is a vote for McCain!! You might as well throw your ballot in a toilet.
These are the issues, and not some petty manner of "personal betrayal" you need to ponder.
-Chris
Sexism as Convenient Truth: Rationalizing Hillary's Loss and the Politics of Sexism
http://mydd.com/story/2008/6/15/25816/2483
As a 62 year-old woman who has worked her entire life, since the age of 16, has a college education and has been in a professional position promoting and mentoring to young women all these years, I can't support Obama. The race was about gender and swayed by much of the Media, mostly men. This has put women back for many years of progress. Why can't people understand that there are many women who are more intelligent and make better public officals than many men who are currently serving in these positions. At least, we don't always put put our personal sex lives first.
If Michelle O'bama had not been an african american when she was 20 years old, she wouldn't be where she is today. She's had the opporunity and doors opened because she is a black women and not because she is a woman.
Like many other people who have expressed their opinions on this blog, I will not vote for Obama and all the harrassment from Obama supporters will only make my determination stronger. Say whatever you want to say, say it over and over and over. I don't care! I am not voting for Obama. I will vote for other Democrats (probably), so the Democrats will probably win the House and the Senate with a big enough majority that McCain won't be able to do any real damage. And the younger women who are so worried about their reproductive freedom can do what us older women did many years ago, they can fight that battle.
My anger will not fade by November. I will vote McCain so that my vote is not wasted. I will never vote obama; never. The elitist DNC and Rules cmte has lost all credibility and any integrity they had. I am done with the Democratic party. Unless Hillary comes back to us as the nominee in August, McCain will get my vote. I still hold out hope that obama will be fully exposed for what he really is and "they" will no longer be so enamored and hypnotized. And I hope Hillary would not be on the ticket as VP. I still won't vote obama. We must all ban together and vote McCain unless the superdelegates switch to Hillary. Let's stay strong and send strong msge to the DNC Any meetings in Michigan?
Posted on Clinton Democrats by Frieda Dietrich -
Initially, I thought I would write-in HRC however, the more I know, the more informed I have become in the last few weeks, the study and research I did specific to this last year - it was really horrific and unbelievable what was done to HRC by the media, the DNC (Dean and Brazile to name a few), the leadership of the Democratic Party, Oprah (I send her magazine back every month - can’t wait for the subscription to end) and…NO ONE did anything. NO ONE listened - we yelled, we screamed and NO ONE heard us.
Who said (pardon the paraphrase) - “it’s not what the bad people do, it’s what the good people don’t do”.
The polls are coming down on BHO - (ah, we knew that didn’t we) and we need to let the DNC and the leadership of the Democratic Party hear us loud and clear that it is 1st choice HRC or 2nd choice McCain. In January when McCain is being sworn in - it will be heaven to see Dean and Brazile being sworn out.
I am a lifelong Democrat (32 years) and I have never voted Republican - but this year - “its a change I can believe in”.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her” -Susan B
Anthony, 1872.
1- HRC
2- McCain
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Posted by Freida Dietrich - Clinton Democrats
Initially, I thought I would write-in HRC however, the more I know, the more informed I have become in the last few weeks, the study and research I did specific to this last year - it was really horrific and unbelievable what was done to HRC by the media, the DNC (Dean and Brazile to name a few), the leadership of the Democratic Party, Oprah (I send her magazine back every month - can’t wait for the subscription to end) and…NO ONE did anything. NO ONE listened - we yelled, we screamed and NO ONE heard us.
Who said (pardon the paraphrase) - “it’s not what the bad people do, it’s what the good people don’t do”.
The polls are coming down on BHO - (ah, we knew that didn’t we) and we need to let the DNC and the leadership of the Democratic Party hear us loud and clear that it is 1st choice HRC or 2nd choice McCain. In January when McCain is being sworn in - it will be heaven to see Dean and Brazile being sworn out.
I am a lifelong Democrat (32 years) and I have never voted Republican - but this year - “its a change I can believe in”.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her” -Susan B
Anthony, 1872.
1- HRC
2- McCain
"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her."
SUSAN B. ANTHONY
Dervish wants examples of Obama-generated character assassination? Two words: Geraldine Ferrero.
I just now took the poll. I will be voting for McCain in November. I have been a democrat for 20 plus years, and this month I became an independent. I need John to address concerns about the economy, the war, and choice. I knew where Hillary stood on these, and I was one of those that agreed on her vote in Iran, for example. I consider John to be a moderate, and I hope in his near-term speeches he confirms that position. We need John to do that. I am now working to ensure that my democratic vote for McCain is not the only one. Obama says he has the Latino vote, well I am going to work hard so that he does not. and I will continue to email my fellow democrats to point out Obama's weaknesses.
We have just begun!
"I think there is a special place in hell for women who don't help other women". Madelyn Albright.
I am an independent and I really have no idea who I will vote for in November. I supported Hillary Clinton because I found her views and solutions to be the most sensible and well thought out.
Sure Hillary ran a poor campaign. She should have emphasized the fact the she is the one Democrat that Republicans go to when they want to get bi-partisan support on a bill.
I suspect that someone in the McCain camp is going to pick up on this theme since he too has crossed the aisle. How many times has Obama crossed the isle? In fact how many times has he been present for votes?
I have read the candidates views on the economy, health care and Iraq. Obama can not run on history. McCain needs to get a grip on reality. Hillary made a mistake in voting for the war but she was right when she said we can't just pull out of there.
If Obama sticks to his campaign promises we will have a repeat of the Carter years. I suspect Obama is going to change is stance on quite a few issues. A candidate can not get to the top of the ticket in either of the top 2 parties without being owned by the corporate interests. The question I have is which corporate interests own Obama?
Finally a vote for McCain does not guarantee a setback to women, as long as congress remains in the hands of the opposing party. This is a very real possibility.
Hillary should not accept the VP spot if offered. She should run as an independent. None of the major candidates has enough support to win a majority of votes anyway.
I AM STILL SO SAD FOR WHAT THE MEDIA AND HER OWN PARTY DID TO HER. I REALLY DO WISH HILLARY WILL GO INDEPENDANT SO WE WILL ALL VOTE FOR HER. SO MANY HYPOCRITES IN THE MEDIA AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ACTING LIKE THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY DID. IF THEY CHOOSE EDWARDS OR RICHARDSON OR GORE FOR VP THAT WILL BE THE END OF ME AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DEMOCRATS TO VOTE INDEPENDANT OR EVEN REPUBLICAN.GO INDEPENDANT HILLARY
To women who want to make change and keep this from happening again and again, write the big advertisers not just the media. And don't just write anyone, be intelligent, look up the e-mail address for their public relations person, the chairman of the board -someone that will make a difference. Tell the motor companies and the insurance companies and the pharma companies that you WILL NOT support their products as long as they run ads in media that does not support women's rights. The media all but ignored positive news about Hillary Clinton. It's inexcusible.
I heard someone on Hardball say that women are just over emotional. ( implying that it happens once a month). That made me ill when I heard it. They implied the same thing about Hillary if should get into the oval office. (they worried she would push the button).
And they accuse the GOP of fear mongering. This is a joke. Go away Obama backers. Your candidate is flawed, he lacks expience and sound judgement. As far as character, it is always easy to stand on the stump and tell everyone else how to live, but in the background when no one is watching, you smoke crack and get blow jobs from down and outers in your own neighborhood. Clean up your own life before you start telling me how to live mine.1 Obama will not only change Washington he wants repartion. Notice all of his personal charities only cover the AA.
Al Gore is now endorsing Barack Obama. He keeps listing reasons that elections count. I think he's confused about the lessons of the 2000 election. He seems to think that one should support the candidate selected by authorities as opposed to the candidate elected by voters. George Bush and Barack Obama were SELECTED. Obama - like the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, and the Supreme Court - doesn't believe in counting all the votes or even letting everyone vote. He vetoed new primaries in Florida and Michigan even when Hillary Clinton supporters offered to pay for them and all the authorities agreed to have them. So why does Al Gore keep saying that "elections count?" Does he think that it's okay for Democratic power brokers to select a nominee while it's not okay for the Supreme Court to pick a president? So which elections matter, Al?
When asked about the women’s movement rejecting Obama, heard Dick Morris (ex-Hillary campaign) on Hannity&Colmes predict we women were just trying to get Hillary on the ticket but would fall into line before November. I am guessing that most of the DNC believe same. We need to stay committed and stay focused so the DNC realizes that we are not just talk but a whole lot of action and their worst political nightmare.
I also saw Dick Morris say that on Hannity & Colmes. What an ass that man is -- and what clear hatred he feels for Sen. Clinton.
One little correction, though. Dick Morris never worked on Hillary Clinton's campaign. He was a pollster for Bill Clinton's campaigns. He was ultimately fired -- probably by Hillary -- when it came out that he was entertaining prostitutes in his hotel room when in Washington to meet with the president. He also was, and apparently still is, an income-tax scofflaw.
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Stay strong, we must keep working hard. I'm personally trying to have a discussion with everyone I can. I wait in a doctor's office and I start a conversation. I take my car in for service and I start a conversation. I'm in line at the grocery store and I start a conversation. I go to a child's ball game and I start a conversation. I have a relative in another state and I call them to talk. I order an item over the phone and I start a conversation.
Do what you can: wherever you can. We have several months to work here. Let's dedicate ourselves to making a difference.
To all of you who submitted comments: If you are not a Clinton supporter please do not try and use the "unify the Party" bs. I agree, the way Dean, Dees, DNC and all the others treated Senator Clinton was horrible.Obama stated a long time ago, they did not need her to win. Why should they now? Clinton Supporters: Pay no attention to those who are trying to change your mind about voting for McCain, or voting Independent.
Write in Senator Clinton's name on the Ballot. I think you can do a write in vote.(someone let me know). The DNC is expecting all of us to fall in line behind the Democratic Party. I am a 57 year old African American, and I will not vote for Obama. People who are posting comments in this day and age voting for the party you are registered with is not necessary. Vote the way you want to. Send the DNC a message. The Democratic Party wants us to do the support the party thing! DON'T! Before, the Clintons were liars and a lot of other things, but now Obama needs the Clintons. Hillary Democrats vote Independent or John McCain. (note: I just wish McCain would put on his big boy bowers and use his big boy voice). Send a message that those of us who voted, voted for our candidate. She is not there, so we do not have to vote for the Democrats choice. IF ANYONE KNOWS HOWARD DEAN'EMAIL ADDRESS AND THE DNC PLEASE SHARE THE INFORMATION SO WE CAN SEND A MESSAGE TO THEM.Those of us Clinton Supports can tell him what to expect from us. I have been a registered Democrat all of my voting life. I can not continue to be a Democrat any longer. I will in the future become an Independent. Please Clinton supporters don't do it. She is supposed to come out and campaign for him soon. I want to send her a message and tell her not to. But she will, because just like John Edwards, she will. Did you hear how his supporters were booing her last night? The DNC dishonored her.
Do not let those Obama people on this Post try to tell you other wise. I belive they are on this site sending the Support the Candidate Post.
Hillary Clinton Supporters: Here is the information for contacting the Democratic Nataional Committee: Address: 430 S'Capital SE, Washington, DC 20003: Telephone Number: 202-863-8000,Fax Number: 202-863-8063. Do what you can to let them know how you feel about how they treated Hilllary Clinton.
I too, will be a vote against Obama and most specifically a vote against the democratic party, which I too, no longer consider mystelf affiliated with. We must all be careful, however of doing a write in. I believe a vote for McCain sends the loudest message. a write in or a vote for some obsure independent not well known will only give Obama more oppportunity to become the next president. Let's send a loud and clear message to the DNC: Vote McCain.
I agree ..get the hook for dick morris...I change the station when he is on. there is no opinion of his that I need to hear. I have also contacted the station in which he made hatred comments about Hillary and complained. so now, I do change the station. WE must express our anger directly with the stations and let them know we will not complacently sit by. What happened to Hillary has me so fired up, I ready for a revolution. Thank God for this blog and some others.
dick morris; full of himself and has not a clue what we as Hillary supporters are capable of. I hope no one strays from the objective in November. If things remain as they are and Hillary is not our nominee: VOTE MCCAIN. DNC, rules committe and all the other elitist democratic leaders...put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Al Gore has lost his memory, it is very clear. Elections count...he should have stood up to count our votes in Michigan and Florida. Now that would have demonstrated leadership. No respect for you Al, anymore. guess you had to do it in the name of so called party unity. ...I say there needs to be a split from this so called democratic party ..we need a strong third party with new leadership...Hillary go forth and live your destiny...President Hillary Clinton, the first female to be elected president...January 2009
Obama is a bully . It is very clear from his treatment of the others on the ballot in Chicago when he ran; he bullied them all off the ballot so that he had no competition and could easily win his seat in the senate and he has done the same thing to Hillary ...oh but he is a very shrewd man...he has worked his evil in a very clever way. All his degrading comments toward and about Hillary only speak more to his character but the DNC doesn't care. well now they have their pretty boy ..let's watch him lose big to John McCain. I think we need meetings to rally Hillary supporters toward this cause. Also, a tidbit of background re: Obama and being a bully. I have a friend who knows someone who went to school with him in Hawaii and she said he was really a bully back then. Well, obviously there has been no change we can believe in for his redemption now as an adult and running for the highest office.
Ladies.....
The DNC is no longer "American Owned". We know this because the DNC "power" was flashed before our eyes when popular votes became replaced with "super delegates"...code name for..."DNC Power of Choice".
Howard Dean, even Pelosi turned their backs on "democratic voting"...each vote WAS a person.
Yet...the DNC knew better than the American people. It seems even Gore (although beaten by the same method) has turned toward the college faternity of liberal democrats. The "people" have been forgotten.
Obama and Howard Dean recently declared they were moving the DNC to Chicago. The same Chicago where gangs run free and political crime is forgotten.
If Obama could not clean up Chicago...then how is he going to change the entire country?
If you reply..."well, thats the Mayors job"...Obama was a Senator"
....then who was responsible for Katrina?
The DNC has chosen high gas prices:
Let me walk you through this list of possible solutions to our energy problems that have been voted on in the House of Representatives over the past 14 years:
ANWR Exploration
House Republicans: 91% Supported
House Democrats: 86% Opposed
Coal-to-Liquid
House Republicans: 97% Supported
House Democrats: 78% Opposed
Oil Shale Exploration
House Republicans: 90% Supported
House Democrats: 86% Opposed
Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) Exploration
House Republicans: 81% Supported
House Democrats: 83% Opposed
Refinery Increased Capacity
House Republicans: 97% Supported
House Democrats: 96% Opposed
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It is no longer about which team (dem or rep) wins.....it's about keeping our lights on and taking our country back.
American Solutions - Petitions
Just a few words: when you read the negative postings of obamaites, that's the kind of unity he inspires! And people please reconsider the 'write-ins' and the 'staying home'...We must support McCain with our money and votes! (I know, I know!) Giving the Judas DNC a landslide LOSS will teach them a valuable lesson! Hillary will be able to run in 4 yrs.( I don't think McCain would run for a 2nd term [his age] and his VP may not be the winning sort).If Obama wins , the DNC will definitely back him for a 2nd term( not Hillary)...Afterwards the country will most likely go Republican and so Hillary won't have a chance for 12 to 16 yrs.! Look at this in the cold hard light of political reality. Vote McCain...Beat Obama...Help Hillary!
Have done some research on write-in votes in California -- they don't count unless Hillary registers as a write-in candidate. Somehow, I don't see that happening.
thank you for checking the write in status for CA. Here in MI, they don't count either. I believe it too risky to do write-ins.... they won't mean anything to our cause. I believe registered democrats voting republican/McCain will speak volumes to the DNC. Also, we must remember, obama is only the presumed nominee; things may change; no definite acts like contributions to McCain should occur till after the convention.
After all these years, the media is suggesting that the candidates’ wives are now off-limits (excuse me, but didn’t they repeatedly trash John Kerry’s wife Teresa Heinz?). They make the altruistic Cindy McCain look like a rich selfish woman, and Ms. Obama? - - Just because they put a frilly summer frock on Ms. Obama and put her on the admittedly friendly liberal “View” does not make her June Cleaver. She is not a defenseless female that needs the NOW’s support, she is an intelligent woman just as Hillary and should be treated as such - - definitely not a sweet-talking Barbie doll. I firmly believe she is the power behind the throne in that family; she has more intelligence than her husband and is most likely calling most of the shots. They do her an injustice to portray her as a sweet tempered Jackie O clone (even Jackie didn’t stay at home baking cookies). Perhaps they hope she will have greater appeal to the mom-and-apple-pie voters who have suddenly become brain-dead in their golden years. I think the barn door was closed a little too late to obliterate all her previous comments re America as they will continue to surface over the course of this campaign.
Yes, we must all agree a landslide for McCain from all of us as Hillary Supporters is the message to send and then it is so true....Hillary can run in 2012. write ins or staying home does nothing to support or help Hillary or send the much needed message to the elitist DNC.
This post was excellent! I truly enjoyed reading it and I couldn't agree more. As a life long democrate I am now moving my vote to Sen. McCain. I would like to ask everyone who reads this to please donate $5.44 on July 4th to johnmccain.com. I believe it will send a message to the media and to the DNC that we aren't "getting over it". Although it is a small amount of money if we can get one million please to do it--What a statement we will make!
If you agree with me that Sen. McCain would be a better representative of the American people, please send this request to everyone you know via email, blog, etc. Thanks so very much.
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